Franz Nahrada (GIVE): is the sound good?

Hermann Brumm: If you have any technical questions please enclose them in the chatbox and I will address them.

Hermann Brumm: If you have any questions or comments for the panelists please enclose them in the chatbox and I will forwarded them to the respective recipients.

Hermann Brumm: Welcome Eisenbach, Nahrada, Ponder, and Mohamed. We appreciate greatly your participation.

Hermann Brumm: Welcome Tenningas to the session.

Karim ATTOUMANI MOHAMED (Comoros ICT regulation Authority): Thank you Hermann

Hermann Brumm: I forward the following two youtube links to the remote participants that will be used during the session.

Hermann Brumm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_yO5HJn5MA&feature=plcp

Hermann Brumm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpIKeIh8mOM

Hermann Brumm: I will refer to the links individually as they are presented throughout the presentation.

Hermann Brumm: Welcome Mr. Attoumani to the session on strategic uses of ict's

Hermann Brumm: Any questions or comments can be enclosed in the chatbox.

Dagmar Eisenbach (Ideawerk) 2: this slide is difficult to read

Dagmar Eisenbach (Ideawerk) 2: (the graphs)

Hermann Brumm: I will accommodate any small text or smaller graphs with text in the chatbox. Thank you for addressing the discrepancy.

Dagmar Eisenbach (Ideawerk) 2: no worries, I assume we will receive the slides somehow aftterwards and can have a look

Hermann Brumm: Yes they will be available after the session.

Hermann Brumm: Welcome Mr. Laykov to the session.

Hermann Brumm: We appreciate you being and look forward to your participation.

Hermann Brumm: I take this brief moment to welcome the new participants to the session.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): Franz - thanks for inviting me

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): Hermann - thank you for your welcome

Hermann Brumm: You are welcome. Thank you for taking time to be here with us remotely.

Hermann Brumm: Please refer to the links provided in the chatbox

Hermann Brumm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_yO5HJn5MA&feature=plcp

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): thank you I'll check. I have to admit I was not expecting to come to this and so am not free to give it my ndivided attention, which I regret as it seems very relevant to my interests

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): will it be possible to go through all the slides again afterwards

Hermann Brumm: Yes, the slides will be available after the session.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I am very interested that robotics is included

Yury Laykov (MicroEm): Hello everyone, Franz - thank you for the invitation. Mr. Brumm, unfortunately sound goes broken. I look forward to see the recording with slides and good sound.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): i have tried to include some aspect of contol tech in courses I have designed

Hermann Brumm: I appreciate the interest the remote participants have for the subject matter.

Hermann Brumm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpIKeIh8mOM

Hermann Brumm: Please refer to the following link for the current video being presented.

Hermann Brumm: The presenter begun the video at 2:47

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): the link worked fine

Hermann Brumm: wonderful

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): but I have a problem because if I wathc teh video I get the video sound and I also get the sound from here...

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): hmm... not sure what to do

Hermann Brumm: Yes, it would be quite difficult to view the video on both ends simultaneously.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I think I will come back here and wathc the video later

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): fortunately I am familiar with Franz;s work

Hermann Brumm: Yes, that would be the ideal option.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I was 'immersed in it" a couple of years back when he organised something in Austria

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): and we had explored shared ideas and practical work before that

Hermann Brumm: We appreciate and admire your enthusiasm for Franz's work.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I like his point about relationship between practical and therretical learning

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): and about sharing knowledge

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): and the truth of local knowledge

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): it ties in with work I am doing in Africa, especially Nigeria, but also elsewhere

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): it si great to hear this update

Hermann Brumm: If the remote participants have any comments or questions, I will be more than happy to forward them to the panel.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): we are also looking at eco-stuff

Hermann Brumm: Comments and questions can be enclosed in the chatbox

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): appropriate tech etc

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): i wish I had known about this sooner

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I would like to have invited soem other people who I know in my London network

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I like teh point that is being made now

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): about more humility - and shared respect

Hermann Brumm: The misconceptions of the developed and the developing world.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): end of any ideas of "top-down" and "bottom-up" it is about information flows across between equals

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): Sorry Pamela I just learned it 2 hours ago that we will have this opportunity

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): ref The misconceptions of the developed and the developing world. - indeed

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): It is great Franz - i appreciate being invited.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): sound very low

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): right, he has to move, so we cant hear properly

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): (hi Michael)

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I think I may need to accept that I will have to rely on Franz for feedback about the rest of this meeting

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): ah - interesting to start learning who in in audience.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): accreditation is an interesting issue

Hermann Brumm: "The area of fundraising cannot have enough people with expertise"

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): someone should inform presenter that he makes it impossible for remote audience to hear him

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): we are exploring alternative approaches to the accredititation issue

Chiric Sovan (Telecommunication Authority Suriname): thats true the audio is bad

Hermann Brumm: I will inform the presenter again that he ought to speak into the microphone.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): it seems there are some great people in the audience

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): Pam - agreed

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): i wonder if they "exist as on ongoing community" beyond the time and space constraints of this physical meeting

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): thats what GKPF is for

Chiric Sovan (Telecommunication Authority Suriname): the audio is good now

Yury Laykov (MicroEm): not here

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): because Klaus sat at the mic

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): thaks franz for including us in again

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): yes, thanks Franz

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): its a very interesting metamorphosis happening here

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): combining us - the online particapants and the F2F group is an interesting challenge

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): Well that Videobridge...we started it in Vienna

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): and I hope that we can team up with ITU and GKPF

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): are we just observers of the physical meeting, or a parallel firnge meeting, or soem kind of combined one?? as Franz says .. as metamorphasis

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): to deliver a service to such conferences

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): ah - who is this Nigerian contirbutor

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): that is badly needed

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): please where in NIgeria is he from?

Hermann Brumm: The chatroom is presented on the projectors in the room.

Chiric Sovan (Telecommunication Authority Suriname): from his accent you know he is nigeria pamela

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): great observation fro Nigeria!

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): what is the matemorphosis? clarify or name it, plz

Hermann Brumm: If there is someone who would like to make a contribution, I would be happy to forward the message.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): please ask him if I can hve his contact details

Hermann Brumm: noted, Pamela

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): GKPF is making a metamorphosis from a funders club to a broad network

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): with enormous social capital in terms of 15 years of connections

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): important to approch such transformation nd social capital with perspective of (open) stewardship

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): Intervention from Ecuador: need to roll out rural infrastructure

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I have a contact working in S America who wodl love to have heard that last contribution

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): is there anyone who will be "nurturing" this "embryonic group" - ie the collection of people here - to help them continue the conversation online

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): goood Q Pam

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): if anyon ewould like to turn up to the next Dadamac First Thursday meeting they would be very welcome

Hermann Brumm: I take this brief moment again to thank the remote participants for their active engagement in today's discussion.

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): thanks for your efforts Hermann

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): http://etherpad.openstewardship.net/June-2012-First-Thursday

Chiric Sovan (Telecommunication Authority Suriname): thanx for the assistance Mr. Herman

Hermann Brumm: Thank you for being here, Mr. Sovan.

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): thank you everyone

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): I'd welcome contact form people

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): http://gkpfoundation.org/

Yury Laykov (MicroEm): Thanks for an interesting event, Hermann

Pamela McLean (Dadamac ): pamela.mclean@dadamac.net

Franz Nahrada (GIVE): f.nahrada@reflex.at

Yury Laykov (MicroEm): sowulo@inbox.ru

Yury Laykov (MicroEm): Sad thing is that here in russia it is work ours and I have to kind of cheat to participate here

Michael Maranda (CivicGardens): mm@michaelmaranda.net

Chiric Sovan (Telecommunication Authority Suriname): c.sovan@tas.sr